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Why did you return to Greece?

In 2011, I left Greece for Ireland with my wife. We lived there for about twelve years, experiencing some of the best years of our lives.

  • I advanced my career from a mid-level backend developer to a solutions architect, a principal engineer, and eventually, a co-founder of a technology company.
  • I co-founded Ardanis, a digital software consultancy, and helped grow the company for over eight years.
  • Both our daughters were born in Dublin.
  • We even bought a house near Dublin.

Yet, at some point, we decided to return to Greece.

When I tell people in Greece about my return, the response is almost always the same:

Why did you return?

The question usually carries an undertone suggesting that Greece is inferior—a place not worth coming back to if you’ve lived in a well-run, prosperous country. But for me, the answer was more complex.

Yes, my profession allows me to work remotely, and many Greeks with similar opportunities choose to stay abroad. But what I found abroad was always almost fulfilling, like music playing slightly off-key. The real meaningful moments always felt just beyond reach—a cheap flight away.

The thought of returning to Greece lingered, always quietly waiting. Over the years, I watched friends move back to their homelands—Poland, Cyprus, Hungary, Portugal. If they could return, why couldn’t I? Greece, despite its issues, is not a dangerous place; there is no war, no fear of violence.

A few years before deciding to return, I discovered two practices that profoundly shaped my thinking: Meditation and Stoicism

Through Stoicism, I learned to listen to my inner voice—the ήγεμονικόν. Meditation then helped me amplify that voice.

One morning, during my usual meditation session in the quiet of our attic, I opened my eyes, and a message arrived in my mind, unbidden and unmistakable:

You are moving back to Greece.

It wasn’t just a thought—it felt like a truth revealed, as if someone had simply stated a fact, and now I knew it with certainty.

Six months later, after preparations and farewells, we were back in Greece.

Now that I’ve been here for two years, let me share why I made this choice.

I returned for

  • My parents, to be there for them, and my kids’ grandparents, while they are still around.
  • My sister and her family
  • My friends
  • My relatives
  • My kids to start Greek school and learn our heritage and culture.
  • My father-in-law’s wine
  • My mother-in-law’s pastitsio
  • The protection and support of my circle which dampened my anxiety and helped eliminate my panic attacks.
  • Friendship
  • The Greek lifestyle
  • The discussions on philosophy with Mr. Kyriakos, the bookshop owner.
  • The impromptu coffee/tavern outings where we get to discuss interesting topics.
  • Greek food, veggies, and delicious fruits.
  • The people I meet that invite me for coffee despite just meeting them.
  • The sea
  • The summers
  • The nature and Mount Olympus to which I have instant access.
  • The 100km of sandy beaches that we don’t know what to do with them in Pieria
  • The walks by the sea with the family in the purple lit, summer sunsets.
  • My hometown and county that the universe blessed in more than one way.
  • Katerini and Thessaloniki
  • Chalkidiki
  • The things I find meaningful in life
  • The fact that we don’t live forever

In order to truly understand why I returned, you would need to spend a decade abroad. Only by losing something can you fully appreciate what you once had.

So that’s why I returned.

But our journey here has just begun, and who knows what lies ahead?

Standing atop Mytikas, the highest peak of Mount Olympus at 2,917 meters. From here, I feel connected to both my journey abroad and my return home.

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Intro

(I intended to write this back in 2023 but it remained a draft for quite a while. I’ve decided to publish it now.)

Πιέρια Όρη

This is another blog in the series about returning to Greece and setting up a company. In this part, I’ll explore and document my experience as an expat returning to Greece after 10+ years and applying for Αρθρο 5Γ tax relief. If you don’t know what this is, it’s a 50% tax reduction for 7 years(as of this writing).

Prerequisites

If you have been away for more than 5 years and not getting taxed in Greece, then you can avail of this. You’ll need documentation from the revenue abroad or other means of proving that you were a tax resident of another country. In my case, I exported my tax certificates and P60s(employment income details) for the past 5 years.

First step

To kick off the process I’ve asked my accountant to handle the application. I sent him the documents which were in English, and he made the application with the necessary attachments.

The first problem we encountered was that they asked for the documents to be officially translated. I located a certified/recognized by the state translator in my area and asked her to translate the docs. It was about 20 pages so that was a cost.

Once I received the translated documents, I scanned them and sent them to my accountant to upload them again. The next day the revenue messaged us to tell us that the application was going to the next phase.

Another thing they ask you to submit is a signed statement (υπεύθυνη δήλωση) to state that for the next 2 years, you will remain a tax resident of Greece. This was easily done via GoV.gr so I forwarded the PDF to my accountant to attach to the application.

A few months later

There was a big gap between applying for 5Γ and seeing any progress on it. One thing that went wrong was that due to our judgment to file tax returns for 2022, it was done in a bad way. I didn’t need to file returns in Greece for many years. In 2022, I bought a car that I intended to use for our summer visits in Greece and I reckoned that in 2023 I should likely start filing returns again to make sure that my property (the car) is correctly documented, even though I would still be a foreign tax resident.

In the meanwhile, of course, we decided to return and once we did the first thing I did in early 2023 was to switch my tax residency/address to Greece. Afterward, my accountant tried to file the return for 2022 as a foreign tax resident but the Greek Revenue wouldn’t accept it as their system couldn’t handle the edge case of me being away in 2022 and being able to file it like so after I have moved my residency in 2023. So, they asked us to file it as a Greek resident and reassured us that there wouldn’t be any charges for the inconsistency of income (and the acquisition of the car). So we did. When the Department of Alternative Taxation in Athens started to process my application (in August), they asked for my returns for 2022. We happily provided them and then we received the bad news. The returns for the prior year cannot show you as being a tax resident of Greece 🤦‍♂️. Long story short, it was a difficult journey to change the prior year’s tax returns so I now seem as a Foreign tax resident retroactively. But we did. The lesson we learn though is simple.

If you plan to apply for 5Γ, then do not, under any circumstances, file any tax returns that show you are a Greek Tax resident. Even when the Greek Revenue asks you to! (so they can deal with the edge case).

Ok, but how would you do it differently?

Say you return from Ireland in 2023 November. You spent the majority of 2023 there, so you are a tax resident of Ireland for 2023. You aim to open up shop to invoice or become a permanent employee of a Greek entity in 2024. Then you need to ensure that any tax returns for 2023 are filed BEFORE you switch your tax residency to Greek. If you don’t, then you’ll have a bad time.

Alright, what happened next?

When the sticking point of the bad tax returns was sorted, it took a few weeks to get the OK. Then a few weeks to get the official letter in my taxis notifications that I indeed now have 5Γ for 7 years. All in all, the application will take about 8 months minimum with the current queues. I was told that it’s only two people in Athens who deal with these applications so it’s crucial to start it sooner rather than later. Remember that if you were to return in 2024 to work in Greece, you wouldn’t be asked to pay tax all the way until 2025 fall. That is, if you set up a freelancer setup like I did. So there’s time, but be prudent and start it early.

Reversing the brain drain

I think this is a very good incentive to get people to return. That said, I think that taxation needs to be revamped a bit. IKE is the next most tempting thing at 25% flat tax but other countries around us have much better terms (cough Bulgaria, cough Cyprus ). The cost of living in Greece is not what many would make it so be aware that many things are still expensive.

Infrastructure needs improvement. Internet connections are much inferior to European countries and electricity is going up and down with no warnings (well, unless you live in the major cities, I suppose).

So, overall, happy?

I have a positive outlook for our lives in Greece. I hope things will continue to get better and having people return is going to help the country recover faster.

Remote work is a blessing and while it lasts, there’s no other place in the world that I’d like to work from than from my home country, Greece.